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		By: Ariel T Nessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel T Nessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All too often justice movements,  animals and others,  compartmentalize the injustice they are trying to undo without realizing that prejudice,  indifference,  bigotry,  sexism ,  xenophobia,  racism,  homophobia and,  of course,  speciesism are all products of a shared cultural consciousness that creates a sense of &quot;otherness&quot;.  For me,  my deepening practice of compassion for animals has led to a natural expansion of compassion and care for for all forms of injustice.  It seems to me that as our movement similarly takes a stand against all institutionalized hatred and violence (both subtle and active),  the more accessible animal rights will feel to those humans who experience their own forms of institutionalized injustice.  For me,  veganism is much broader then the act of not eating or wearing animals.  It&#039;s much less about the non active approach of refraining from harm then it is an active effort and aspiration to manifest a more considerate,  kind,  and just human presence on the planet for animals (including homosapiens).  My no means does my acknowledgment (or yours) of the validity and importance of the Black Lives Matter movement diminish my capacity to advocate for farm animals.  In fact,  I would argue it enhances it.  I bow down to you and Vegan Outreach for taking this step to broaden our movement&#039;s vision and it&#039;s tent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All too often justice movements,  animals and others,  compartmentalize the injustice they are trying to undo without realizing that prejudice,  indifference,  bigotry,  sexism ,  xenophobia,  racism,  homophobia and,  of course,  speciesism are all products of a shared cultural consciousness that creates a sense of &#8220;otherness&#8221;.  For me,  my deepening practice of compassion for animals has led to a natural expansion of compassion and care for for all forms of injustice.  It seems to me that as our movement similarly takes a stand against all institutionalized hatred and violence (both subtle and active),  the more accessible animal rights will feel to those humans who experience their own forms of institutionalized injustice.  For me,  veganism is much broader then the act of not eating or wearing animals.  It&#8217;s much less about the non active approach of refraining from harm then it is an active effort and aspiration to manifest a more considerate,  kind,  and just human presence on the planet for animals (including homosapiens).  My no means does my acknowledgment (or yours) of the validity and importance of the Black Lives Matter movement diminish my capacity to advocate for farm animals.  In fact,  I would argue it enhances it.  I bow down to you and Vegan Outreach for taking this step to broaden our movement&#8217;s vision and it&#8217;s tent.</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10762&quot;&gt;Dr. Rocco Paolucci&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Dr. Paolucci, thank you for reading this post and for leaving a comment. I&#039;m grateful for the opportunity to respond to your concerns. I agree with you that it&#039;s absurd to compare the plight of nonhuman animals to the plight of anyone else, and I certainly didn&#039;t mean to do so in this post. I&#039;m sorry if it came across that way. We at VO believe we can care about more than one issue at a time and that, in fact, it will only make us better activists for the animals. Our mission is to end violence against animals, and we&#039;re very passionate about that, as I know you are too. Thank you for your work toward freeing all animals from suffering!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10762">Dr. Rocco Paolucci</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Dr. Paolucci, thank you for reading this post and for leaving a comment. I&#8217;m grateful for the opportunity to respond to your concerns. I agree with you that it&#8217;s absurd to compare the plight of nonhuman animals to the plight of anyone else, and I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to do so in this post. I&#8217;m sorry if it came across that way. We at VO believe we can care about more than one issue at a time and that, in fact, it will only make us better activists for the animals. Our mission is to end violence against animals, and we&#8217;re very passionate about that, as I know you are too. Thank you for your work toward freeing all animals from suffering!</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10765&quot;&gt;Todd Lee&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Todd. This means so much to me, and I&#039;m sure it will to the rest of our staff too. I&#039;ll share it with them, as we all have a hand in this work and I&#039;m only *one* of the people who should be on the receiving end of any feelings of gratitude you have towards VO. :) I was glad to see you at the conference and hope you had a great time. See you again soon if I&#039;m lucky!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10765">Todd Lee</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Todd. This means so much to me, and I&#8217;m sure it will to the rest of our staff too. I&#8217;ll share it with them, as we all have a hand in this work and I&#8217;m only *one* of the people who should be on the receiving end of any feelings of gratitude you have towards VO. 🙂 I was glad to see you at the conference and hope you had a great time. See you again soon if I&#8217;m lucky!</p>
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		By: Todd Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much Lisa for addressing this important issue and it&#039;s ramifications. There&#039;s nothing more important than honest and open dialogue, I wish I would have seen this before ARNC as I would have loved to have thanked you in person for being brave enough to speak out about what&#039;s on your mind. As a person of color, I truly appreciate it when people who have lived a privileged life acknowledge that the our community needs to better serve all populations of people, of every color and socio economic status. With genuine gratitude! -Todd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Lisa for addressing this important issue and it&#8217;s ramifications. There&#8217;s nothing more important than honest and open dialogue, I wish I would have seen this before ARNC as I would have loved to have thanked you in person for being brave enough to speak out about what&#8217;s on your mind. As a person of color, I truly appreciate it when people who have lived a privileged life acknowledge that the our community needs to better serve all populations of people, of every color and socio economic status. With genuine gratitude! -Todd</p>
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		By: Dr. Rocco Paolucci		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Rocco Paolucci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Billions of land animals and trillions of aquatic animals are being slaughtered, tortured, abused, and neglected all over the world by &quot;humans&quot; of all races and YOU and/or YOUR ORGANIZATION are worried about &quot;police brutality&quot; against black men. To compare the plight of nonhuman animals to any other type of &quot;social injustice&quot; (race, gender, sexuality, etc.) is absolutely absurd. You, your organization, and others like yours who have adopted the &quot;intersectionalist&quot; approach to animal rights action are either willing or unwilling &quot;useful fools&quot; for the Marxist social warrior movement. Unfortunately, I see this happening more and more from &quot;animal rights activist&quot;. Sad state of affairs for the innocent creatures of this world, whose &quot;lives don&#039;t seem to matter&quot; to almost anyone... Not even to the animal rights &quot;advocates&quot;. God helps us all (humans and nonhumans).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billions of land animals and trillions of aquatic animals are being slaughtered, tortured, abused, and neglected all over the world by &#8220;humans&#8221; of all races and YOU and/or YOUR ORGANIZATION are worried about &#8220;police brutality&#8221; against black men. To compare the plight of nonhuman animals to any other type of &#8220;social injustice&#8221; (race, gender, sexuality, etc.) is absolutely absurd. You, your organization, and others like yours who have adopted the &#8220;intersectionalist&#8221; approach to animal rights action are either willing or unwilling &#8220;useful fools&#8221; for the Marxist social warrior movement. Unfortunately, I see this happening more and more from &#8220;animal rights activist&#8221;. Sad state of affairs for the innocent creatures of this world, whose &#8220;lives don&#8217;t seem to matter&#8221; to almost anyone&#8230; Not even to the animal rights &#8220;advocates&#8221;. God helps us all (humans and nonhumans).</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
		<link>https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10738&quot;&gt;James N. Dawson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much for your feedback, James. This is an active learning process for VO and we will take this feedback to heart as we move ahead and make decisions. I will be honest and tell you that while we&#039;ve had a *ton* of feedback, good and bad, on this topic, we have not heard your particular point before. So thank you. I hope it goes without saying that the very last thing we want to do is offend people. If people don&#039;t give us feedback we can&#039;t change. I can&#039;t promise we will change course, because people of color on our staff may disagree with your points. But we will absolutely consider it. Our team will discuss this and thank you again for taking the time to write.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10738">James N. Dawson</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your feedback, James. This is an active learning process for VO and we will take this feedback to heart as we move ahead and make decisions. I will be honest and tell you that while we&#8217;ve had a *ton* of feedback, good and bad, on this topic, we have not heard your particular point before. So thank you. I hope it goes without saying that the very last thing we want to do is offend people. If people don&#8217;t give us feedback we can&#8217;t change. I can&#8217;t promise we will change course, because people of color on our staff may disagree with your points. But we will absolutely consider it. Our team will discuss this and thank you again for taking the time to write.</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
		<link>https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10734&quot;&gt;Allen Anderson&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes! Thank you, Allen. Everyone you mentioned is doing incredible work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10734">Allen Anderson</a>.</p>
<p>Yes! Thank you, Allen. Everyone you mentioned is doing incredible work!</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
		<link>https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10736&quot;&gt;Jean Bettanny&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Jean!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10736">Jean Bettanny</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Jean!</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10737&quot;&gt;Margaret Morin&lt;/a&gt;.

Margaret, thank you for this comment. And thank you for your support and leafleting! I understand what you are saying and I understand the concern from a donation point of view. This is not a decision that was made lightly (as you can probably guess). Please know that this new work *will help more animals.* 

Right now many big animal rights and welfare groups are lacking in diversity. That means there are millions of people they (we) can&#039;t reach. Fast food restaurants are marketing aggressively to people of color to eat more meat, but our movement is not reaching people of color with the vegan message. As long as that&#039;s true, we&#039;re not going to win for the animals. 

VO believes that you can speak out against racism and sexism and other inequalities while speaking out against speciesism, and that we should, because we want to live in a kinder world. At the same time, we believe it is crucial to increase the number of vegans in the country. If mostly white people reach out to mostly other white people about going vegan we&#039;ll be limiting the work. VO&#039;s mission of creating more vegans has not changed; in fact, our new work will make our movement that much more effective. 

That said, we know it&#039;s a big change and I understand why you are concerned. Please let me know if you want to discuss it in greater detail. I&#039;d love to call or email (lisar at veganoutreach.org). We want to see more feedback from our donors about these issues and we&#039;re grateful you spoke up! Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10737">Margaret Morin</a>.</p>
<p>Margaret, thank you for this comment. And thank you for your support and leafleting! I understand what you are saying and I understand the concern from a donation point of view. This is not a decision that was made lightly (as you can probably guess). Please know that this new work *will help more animals.* </p>
<p>Right now many big animal rights and welfare groups are lacking in diversity. That means there are millions of people they (we) can&#8217;t reach. Fast food restaurants are marketing aggressively to people of color to eat more meat, but our movement is not reaching people of color with the vegan message. As long as that&#8217;s true, we&#8217;re not going to win for the animals. </p>
<p>VO believes that you can speak out against racism and sexism and other inequalities while speaking out against speciesism, and that we should, because we want to live in a kinder world. At the same time, we believe it is crucial to increase the number of vegans in the country. If mostly white people reach out to mostly other white people about going vegan we&#8217;ll be limiting the work. VO&#8217;s mission of creating more vegans has not changed; in fact, our new work will make our movement that much more effective. </p>
<p>That said, we know it&#8217;s a big change and I understand why you are concerned. Please let me know if you want to discuss it in greater detail. I&#8217;d love to call or email (lisar at veganoutreach.org). We want to see more feedback from our donors about these issues and we&#8217;re grateful you spoke up! Thank you!</p>
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		By: Lisa Rimmert		</title>
		<link>https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Rimmert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10732&quot;&gt;Brad&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Brad! You sound cute!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.veganoutreach.org/a-moment-of-thought-as-we-go-into-arnc/#comment-10732">Brad</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Brad! You sound cute!</p>
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